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Lesson 24, Convert to Satin Ribbon, and Lettering for Logos,

Revised for use with Thred 3.0  

The design used as an example for the early version of this lesson was made before underlay was an option on each form.  It is called Thredu3.thr . This file is available for free download . (thr file)  or you might prefer the ZIP file  . This design has the underlay made in separate forms.

I revised that design by removing the separate forms for underlay and turned on edgewalk in all the forms filled with satin stitch.  That version is called ThredlogoV3 and the lesson describing how I did it is Lesson 55 Form Update .

 It is a  good idea to open the design in Thred and look at them as you study the lesson.  Download the Thred bitmap  .  

 If you open the Thredu3.thr file in Thred,you will see that it is made up of 28 forms.  The underlay in Thredu3.thr is two line forms filled with line stitch border.  The other 26 forms began as line forms. They were transformed into Satin Ribbon.  I used short sections for the curves, and longer ones for the straight parts.  In Thredlogov3, I removed the two forms previously used for underlay and used "Edit/ Form Update" to add edgewalk to the satin stitch.  If you want to use edgewalk on the forms as you make them, you must fill the form, then press "F" to get the "Form Data Box" and turn on the edgewalk, and set the Indent, stitch length etc.  You can set the defaults for those under the View menu.  "View/Set/Underlay, then choose the kind of underlay and type in the number that applies.  Once you have the defaults set the way you want the underlay to be, then all the forms for which you click "Edgewalk" (or whichever you choose) will have the same stitch length, indent and so forth, until you change the default.

Step by step:

Load the bitmap and select the screen background color you prefer. You might like to change the bitmap color to one that gives good contrast, is easy to see, and restful on yourted to be sure I put support where it will be needed.  I test stitched the design to see where it needed underlay. If you are using Thred V3, you can set the edgewalk before you test stitch. It will probably not need anything more in the way of underlay. The choice of Edgewalk for lettering is better than underlay, because letters are narrow.  If the lettering is very small, even edgewalk is too much, and you might want only centerwalk, or nothing  at all under the satin stitches.

Zoom in on the place where you want the first form.. Lesson 18, Zoom and Shift Zoom

Click "Form/Line" , then left click to create form points .  Lesson 02, Making a Form     Right click to quit making the form. For satin stitches, following  a curved line, use short form sections.  There are border fills that make satin stitch , but I prefer to use "Convert to Satin Ribbon".  This feature lets you make satin stitches of varying width along the form.  It is more time consuming than the automatic border satins, but can make a very pretty curving line.  You must check the settings in "Preferences" and make sure the Maximum Stitch Length is set for a length longer than the border size.  I usually set Maximum Stitch Length at 9 mm to make sure the program will not insert stitches to break up too long stitches .  

A line form may look very strange when you first use "Convert to Satin" on it.  Each pair of form points will have a directional line between them.  If you move either form point, it changes the direction of the stitches.  If the line looks angular, and is not curved enough,  you can add more form points and drag them until the line is shaped the way you want it to be.

To add more form points, hold the cursor near the form point closest to the place where you want the new one to be,then press "W".  A new form point will pop into place. You can left drag it to another location. 

 If you want a series of new form points, use "E". You will see a different cursor with a cross in a box, and a line connecting the cursor to the place in the form where the form points will go..  When you are finished left clicking for new form points, right click to quit.  The form will close again,the line goes away and you see the arrow cursor again.  You may need to move the new form points until the stitches look right to you.  To cover a sharp corner or curve, you may have to use several sections of Line form and let them overlap a little bit.


The end directional line is darker, and is a non-stitch line. You might think of it as non-stick, too, since stitches don't stick to it.  If you take that line out, the stitches will taper off instead of stopping at a squared off end.  You can replace the non-stitch Directional line by using the "D" key.  You must click twice, once at the beginning place and once at the ending place.  There can only be two non-stitch "D" lines in any form.  These lines are useful for controlling direction of stitches in a Fan-Fill, too. (Technically, the Convert to Satin Ribbon feature is actually filling the form with Fan Fill, but the stitches are the same length as the form is wide.)

Remember you can use "Frm+/-" to hide the forms so you can see just the stitches.

 Finish making and filling the forms for the rest of the word.  Save the file containing the upper parts of the design.  Remember where you save it and give it a short logical name.

Lesson55, retrofitting underlay with Form Update

Lesson 25, Convert to Satin Ribbon, and Lettering for Logos,B

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